• mrfriso edited over 3 years ago
    This thread is meant for reference but feel free to comment.

    Below is an overview of different releases of Prince And The Revolution - Purple Rain with rights society Gema/Biem on the label. I have such record and it took me a while to locate the right one, hopefully below overview saves others that effort.
    Currently 16 such releases exist which in my view is too many to list on the individual releases. Especially if another release is added, in that case all releases would have to be edited.

    The overview below is not complete and fully extensive, some additional unique features may exist (such as embossed W logo, Computer Blue credits, etc feel free to comment). However the releases are ordered as such so that you can find which specific release you have. So it starts with the most exceptional releases and ends with releases without the prior special characteristics. Here we go:

    Purple vinyl:
    Purple Rain: no publishers on labels

    Black Vinyl ->
    Additional publishers on label (bottom right, below ©℗)
    Purple Rain: publisher "Warner Bros. Music Ltd" on labels. Face side sleeve: "You can write to Prince at"

    No publishers on label ->
    With cat# on Lake side sleeve (top right):
    Purple Rain: Face side sleeve clean. With 12- poster

    Lake side sleeve without cat# in top right ->
    Exceptional rights society:
    Purple Rain: GEMA/Biem (small letters) on label B

    Regular GEMA/BIEM ->
    Purple Rain: PF in runout side B

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    March 19, 2021 update:
    release 17427715 Purple Rain added to the overview
    release 1623046 and 6992460 distinguished based on Price Code

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    Prince And The Revolution - Purple Rain UK release with GEMA/BIEM
    publisher "Island Music Ltd" on labels side A & B (bottom right, below ©℗)
    With cat# on Lake side sleeve (top right):
    Face side sleeve: "You can write to Prince at". Price code WE361

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    igork50
    Prince And The Revolution - Purple Rain UK release with GEMA/BIEM
    publisher "Island Music Ltd" on labels side A & B (bottom right, below ©℗)
    With cat# on Lake side sleeve (top right):
    Face side sleeve: "You can write to Prince at". Price code WE361
    why is this not a duplicate?

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    Publisher "Island Music Ltd" on both labels (bottom right, below ©℗) like purple Prince And The Revolution - Purple Rain, but this release is a regular black one. I have not found any other black edition with 'Island Music Ltd' on both labels. And UK destination in runouts.

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    a
    igork50
    UK destination in runouts
    is a variant, if there's another pressing with
    igork50
    'Island Music Ltd' on both labels

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    I have not found any other black edition with 'Island Music Ltd' on both labels

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    The combination "black vinyl" and ""Island Music Ltd" on labels side A & B" already makes it different from 14089627 Purple Rain. Inner sleeve Face side has "You can write to Prince at" which is additionally different.
    The price code WE361 is the same on both and personally I would not designate a "UK" in the runout as a seperate release since it does not identify different companies. And with GEMA/BIEM would make it Europe for me, which includes UK. But I've seen too many country discussions to start one (so please take a country discussion to the release or another thread).
    ->
    March 21, 2021 update:
    release 17945350 Purple Rain added to the overview, identifiers for release 14089627 expanded

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    something you probably not considered is the masses of duplicates and mismatch caused from multiple contributors, copy / draft lousy images or from someone who added the wrong ones etc.

    i wish we could merge all and star from scratch - i'm convinced that a pile of variants or "different editions" are duplicates and/or listed under the wrong submissions. also with/without poster is not a certificate for uniqueness - alone the WE ### numbers are a madhouse

    combinations of GEMA/BIEM misasembled sleeves, misassembled inner sleeves some with John L. Nelson credits or with/without Wendy and Lisa all this makes it impossible to bring order in this mayhem.

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    no.signal
    misasembled sleeves, misassembled inner sleeves (...) makes it impossible to bring order in this mayhem
    That could be the case and I especially question the different labels on Purple Rain but apart from that we have to take the releases as is and based on that all releases with Gema/Biem on the labels are without duplicates as this thread shows. But if you find any incorrect ones and succesfully merge them please let me know and I'll update this thread.

    No Gema/Biem duplicates is at least the case at the time I posted this thread, I'm not keeping track of any new additions since then, so thank you igork50 for alerting me to your submission and providing the identifiers.

    Oh, and this comment
    no.signal
    with/without poster is not a certificate for uniqueness
    is not correct, see e.g. thread 834424

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    mrfriso
    is not correct, see e.g. thread 834424
    lol... forget the thread. with "with/without poster" i meant "missing"
    if you buy a PRLP in 1984 in a record store, without sticker for the poster but the poster is inside, how do you know someone did not misasembled it from another edition? Or if the poster is missing someone pulled it etc.... too much variables - we document how i was released not what happen with the item after its release - e.g. postmanufacture

  • no.signal edited over 4 years ago
    i removed one at r9586226 based on
    zevulon
    ? but a link to the forum is not for release notes IMO
    from https://discogs.descargarpelis.net/release/17427715-Purple-Rain/history

    the issue need a own workflow

    usually we do the widely established "similar pressings" method:
    (which is a takeover years ago from e.g. Depeche Mode, Madonna, Björk releases)

    Linked title (difference)
    Linked title (difference)
    Unlinked title (difference) [this release]
    Linked title (difference)
    Linked title (difference)
    Purple Rain (difference)

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    i removed one at Purple Rain
    if you are of the opinion that improves the release information then by all means do so

    usually we do the widely established "similar pressings" method:
    I'm familiar, see opening post

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    HI friends
    I have had a new aquisition in the last bunch of records
    looks like this vinyl (B side small letters GEMA/Biem) Prince And The Revolution - Purple Rain
    but seems to have the remainders of this hype sticker Prince And The Revolution - Purple Rain
    what do you think, legit combination? or mix and match cover/vinyl
    thanks for your advice

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    hi andreas.klimmt a sticker is never a basis for a unique release, the forum has many threads on this. Certainly then applies to remainder of a sticker 😀

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    Thanks for the advice. I was not asking about a separate release submission.
    I was asking, if it was a legit combination. Or some aftermarket mix and match of covers and vinyls.

    IF it would be a legit combination, I would like to add a note to Prince And The Revolution - Purple Rain with something like "some copies wear a hype sicker at the front cover like ..." not a separate release submission for sure.

    so what do you think?

  • OIS-MUAS-WEG edited over 4 years ago
    https://discogs.descargarpelis.net/de/release/21214729-Prince-And-The-Revolution-Purple-Rain

    Matrix / Runout (Side 1): R/S Alsdorf 925110-1 A2 xx 1-25110-A-SH1 [Allied 'ɑ' logo] B-19421-SH1 SLM △ 6851 1-
    Matrix / Runout (Side 2): R/S Alsdorf 925110-1 B2 5x SLM △ 6851-X 1- 1-25110-B-SH1 [Allied 'ɑ' logo] B-19422-SH1

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    8294190 has the same Matrix/Runout (Variant 1)
    https://discogs.descargarpelis.net/de/release/8294190-Prince-And-The-Revolution-Purple-Rain

    btw sorry for the misunderstanding .. I know what to look out for now and will not write any more publications/duplicates

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    Nice work here, saved me a considerable effort. Just one thing: publisher is Warner Bros. Music Ltd. not Warner Bros Ltd - which makes a difference in Discogs world :-)

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    rdvriese
    Nice work here, saved me a considerable effort. Just one thing: publisher is Warner Bros. Music Ltd. not Warner Bros Ltd - which makes a difference in Discogs world :-)
    Very valid point, thanks for noticing, I amended it in the overview!

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    I have got a copy of this (Variant 1 with A2 6x T):
    https://discogs.descargarpelis.net/release/15455932-Prince-And-The-Revolution-Purple-Rain
    but it has the inner sleeve of this version:
    https://discogs.descargarpelis.net/release/1623046-Prince-And-The-Revolution-Purple-Rain
    (with the "You can write to Prince at... London address" and white 925 110-1 in top right corner of lyric side.)
    It could be a mis-matched record/sleeve? It also has a 'PROMOTIONAL COPY ONLY NOT FOR RESALE' sticker on the back of the main sleeve but I know this doesn't signify anything.

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    hi Wreckless_Eric I would not add such a release, unless I'd be certain it isn't mis-matched.

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    new release added to master list:
    Prince And The Revolution - Purple Rain
    seems to be a new release with GEMA/BIEM & Publisher on label & overprint price code "WE 381"

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